tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post7003116261671627819..comments2024-02-23T10:00:32.673-06:00Comments on the happy hausfrau: An Open Letter to the Amway Lady Who Ruined My Son's Saturday Night:the_happy_hausfrauhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07372773477740551839noreply@blogger.comBlogger257125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-50025988264072752112018-04-02T03:55:24.652-05:002018-04-02T03:55:24.652-05:00I found this blog post, and a lot of the comments ...I found this blog post, and a lot of the comments very interesting reading (sorry didn't read them all, started to suffer comment fatigue).<br /><br />To the commenters who claimed the author was making a "mountain out of a molehill", or at least that is the vibe I was getting. It was a small thing for sure, but like drip torture, its these small micro-aggressions that can have a huge impact in our lives. To me, the post seeks to describe the impact of this thoughtless behaviour, how it impacted on the child, how it initially impacted on the mum (the author), how she initially wanted to respond, and how she eventually responded. It was a very good description of how we as parents often navigate, as our children go out into the world, a place we can't control. We can only give them the tools and hope that they survive ok. For every indignant self important arse that comments, I am assuming that there are a bunch of struggling parents out there, that faced with similar situation, get some much needed support and advice from this post. <br /><br />I think that both your son, and you, have handled this situation as best as can be expected. For those that question why blog about it...... do you have any idea what a blog is actually for? Dani Castleyhttp://www.castley.net/datcat/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-8527374022336514032017-04-22T21:41:18.634-05:002017-04-22T21:41:18.634-05:00Hi Eric,
I must say that you have exquisite manne...Hi Eric, <br />I must say that you have exquisite manners and kindness. Your "apology" on behalf of all the other Amwayers was perfectly crafted. However, all the pretty words in the world will never hide the tactics used by WWDB; which are first and foremost 100% *deceitful* <br /><br />My daughter just got sucked into Amway. I'm here searching for help from others who have watched their kids get TRAFFICKED. Think about it. You target them wherever they magically appear. They have THAT LOOK so you start a conversation; meet again, then hook them, and if all the stars align you will Groom them. Then use them for profit. That's trafficking. <br /><br />She was my bff, told me everything; we laughed all the time. But then last Sept for some unknown reason, she drew "boundaries" away from us for about 6 mos. Wouldn't tell us why, but wanted to tell us 'in person'. So we just found out that she chucked her entire education, career, existing friends & family for this delusion of financial independence within 2-5 yrs. <br />HOW DID THEY GET HER? Impossible.<br /><br />I'm sorry that they got you, too. Are you tired yet? Of IT? All the work, work, work and obsessive thinking about it - selling yourself to strangers in hopes of being financially independent? Drawing circles on napkins in Starbucks, careful not to mention the word Amway? Telling them how much potential and FREEDOM can be attained?! And all those VACATIONS with pretty people?! Holy cow, sign me up! <br /><br />This is a false gospel cloaked in the words of Christ, but a very small g belongs to this god. I've seen the WWDB "Covenant" that IBOs sign: They replace the church with themselves! Kinda like a cult. $ is the end result. Ferrari's, beach homes, Rolex's for the boys, trophies, everyone all dressed THE SAME - (yes, they have their own clothing line! Ball gowns for everyone!). <br /><br />The script is laid out for each new piece of fresh meat. No room for creativity. Talk like this, dress like that, read only these books & associate ONLY w/positive people like your up-lines: learn to mimic everything they do. And never forget: you were CHOSEN! You're not a LOSER like those ones who quit!<br /><br />Eric, please be overtly aware of how deceptive you are when you dodge their questions. "WHAT is the name of this company?" "What are you selling." (my daughter told me "nothing!" No product, no website?" Nope, she said, there's NOTHING TO SELL and I make NOTHING off of other people" she proclaimed. LIES! But she patiently pushed thru the spiel and drawing her circles even though she knew it didn't make sense. <br /><br />Amway and its web of agents are in the business of separating families, just like a good cult does. They groom you, tell you what to think & say, and now you are smarter than most. And don't be sad about your old friends or family, because you have a whole new set of HAPPY FRIENDS! Pretty friends, like-minded people who will tell you how great you are! <br /><br />We will be praying non-stop for her; that this "amazing business opportunity" will fail SOONER rather than later. Before 10-20 years slip away and she has 8 kids and a husband slaving away at being POSITIVE! And if times get hard, those rallies will be coming around in the next 6 mos. to pump them up. Hmm, does John Maxwell sell Amway? Is he part of the DREAM? Didn't think so; he's just raking in his fortune off of selling RALLY TICKETS and telling you all how to be happy and POSITIVE! Brilliant! <br /><br />But Christ never promised financial freedom.<br />He said we were to work hard with our hands.<br />He said we shouldn't eat if we don't work.<br />He said we shouldn't make money off the backs of others. <br />He didn't say, "Deceive them, so that they will know the truth."<br />Let me hear the Spin, spin, spin. Bring it on, Eric. <br />I'd love to hear your financially independent testimony. <br /><br />Make me change my mind. <br /><br />-Mad Momma Cheetah<br /> Momma Cheetahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17424589548448446310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-1521674884922594442016-05-20T00:17:08.342-05:002016-05-20T00:17:08.342-05:00I only just saw this (shared on Huffington Post) s...I only just saw this (shared on Huffington Post) so am coming in to comment 2 years later LOL. You could have been writing about something that happened to my daughter's best friend recently. I won't bore you with the details except to say that they are very similar to your son's experience. My daughter could tell that his day had been dampened, and they'd been out for a fun day. Although the two of them are selfie fiends, he wouldn't let her get him in any more pics that day. My daughter was furious, and I suggested she send the company a Facebook message complaining about the woman who'd insulted him, but by then they couldn't remember the name of the company. This friend is a gorgeous young man, with a very normal helping of teen acne, but being a teen and having acne can both mess with your self esteem, so when those two things (as they so often do) occur together and then a random stranger points it out, it can really knock even the most confident kid flat.<br />I hope your son is doing well for himself, he sounds like a well balanced kid with an amazing Mum. You now have a new follower in Australia :)kitesandkittieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02320281582708624694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-10894389894541907372016-05-19T10:06:35.925-05:002016-05-19T10:06:35.925-05:00I don't care what you end up writing that woma...I don't care what you end up writing that woman - I'm more interested in telling you that you are making thoughtful and loving decisions and lead your children by example. You make them think about a bigger picture and teach them to respond appropriately, even to inappropriate behavior. I'm a mother, a young single mother of an adult now. I have an 18 year old and I'm barely in my mid 30s. This is my entire purpose, to teach her to not stoop to the level of those who are incapable of being gentle humans. I am truly encouraged when I see examples of this type of parenting. Good job and thank you for raising thoughtful children, they will make our world better, I'm sure of it.airca101https://www.blogger.com/profile/12088117366214391507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-31754069828991706452015-10-06T18:11:44.513-05:002015-10-06T18:11:44.513-05:00Well said Erik Well said Erik Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-43117517225866454902015-04-14T15:40:45.821-05:002015-04-14T15:40:45.821-05:00Thanks for sharing this post! I have been research...Thanks for sharing this post! I have been researching a lot about Amway and Dexter Yager who is part of Amway. So far I am not interested in Amway even though <a href="http://wallstreetgenerators.com/dexter-yager-the-amway-legend" rel="nofollow">dexter yager</a> has had a lot of success according to some information I stumbled upon online I still don't know if I should join or not.<br /><br />This article has some good points though, I'll consider it!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07432988344112394066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-46231173611265062332015-02-07T16:22:23.377-06:002015-02-07T16:22:23.377-06:00Hey Anonymous (shocked that you didn't sign in...Hey Anonymous (shocked that you didn't sign in with your real identity)!<br /><br />My sweet little snowflake is 17 now and thanks to a fabulous dermatologist his skin looks pretty good. Thanks for your concern!<br /><br />So, based upon what you wrote, you'd be totally fine if I walked up to you while you were at work, in front of your coworkers and clients (I'm just assuming you work, of course, in public with other people) and pointed out your "flaws"? Let's say that I think your haircut is awful. So, being blunt and honest, I walk up to you, tousle your absurd hair and tell you, nice and loud, that you look like Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber and that I know someone who could make you look so much better. That's cool with you?<br /><br />How about I notice that your teeth are bad. Or that you have pockmarks on your face. Or that your breasts are too small/too big/droopy. Or your nose is too long, your eyes are too small or that your chin is recessed. Being blunt and honest, I am 100% in the right to point these things out to you, even though you most likely know about them, and maybe you're even planning on doing something about them. Sound right?<br /><br />Of course I can't do that because I don't know who you are. Blunt? Yeah, you sure are. Honest? Not so much.<br /><br />Comparing what this woman did to product advertising is dumb. Makes zero sense, actually. I'm glad you had enough time to leave a bitchy comment but not enough to continue with that stupid analogy. <br /><br />Thanks, though, for reading. I honestly appreciate it. the_happy_hausfrauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07372773477740551839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-39174419322137070112015-02-07T03:34:49.616-06:002015-02-07T03:34:49.616-06:00I wonder how you'd write an email full of your...I wonder how you'd write an email full of your emotional disturbance to every company out there in a world where your 16 year old sweet little snowflake lives. Did he buy a deodorant last week? He probably bought it after watching an ad that told him he is not cool enough unless he uses the deo. Did you buy a lipstick for yourself this week....after watching an ad which told you how horribly disgusting you look without that specific lipstick! I could go on & on if had that much time. You teach your kid honesty? Well then that lady was being honest imo. Your son had a problem which is completely natural at his age but do you have any slight idea of what kind of trauma he has to face in school or other social gatherings due to that! He had a problem & the lady had a solution. Simple. Instead of being a creep, she was blunt and honest. Just like everyone should be. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-13227962977226073392014-10-29T01:02:47.778-05:002014-10-29T01:02:47.778-05:00Oh! that's mean! :|Oh! that's mean! :|Bernahttp://www.dermatologistinbangalore.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-4718708773494294152014-06-30T23:14:12.316-05:002014-06-30T23:14:12.316-05:00Actually, it was surprisingly easy (if a trifle un...Actually, it was surprisingly easy (if a trifle uncomfortable). The oral surgeon injected a schlerosing agent in and around it over the course of several months. It puffed up more with the additional fluid, but then began to settle. The agent closed off the veins feeding it. They told me that when all the injections were given, they might have to operate and remove the "kernel" of it, but I actually didn't need the last set of planned injections or the surgery. Woo-hoo! (Apparently lips are very resilient and don't scar much unless the damage is really bad). There's a bit of raised skin still there, but it's the same color as the rest of the lip; you wouldn't notice unless you know what to look for. Never so happy as to have that behind me!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885009487209534486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-67011916996095907592014-06-25T07:57:11.323-05:002014-06-25T07:57:11.323-05:00Hey anonymous well look at you talking you must be...Hey anonymous well look at you talking you must be THE perfect parent and money just flying out your ass first if all if you read the post correctly she said she does have product's for him but regardless the point of this was the cruelty of ignorant people like yourself but of course you won't understand because of your ignorance it is parents like you that WE feel bad for your children and what you teach them because when they become adults they are the ones this original post was made about mom universehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09825344922284604050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-53367188363527030202014-05-11T11:54:57.088-05:002014-05-11T11:54:57.088-05:00Eric: Amway will take care of it? Like they took...Eric: Amway will take care of it? Like they took care of the motivational tools and rally business? If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you? At an overpriced cost, just like the Amway products. Who do you think you're kidding? Stop drinking the kool aid already? It's a great concept but Amway doesn't implement it like the "compassionate capitalism" Rich DeVos claimed it was in his book. How many more lives do you want to ruin?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02477374893641629069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-67960651773479849702014-05-11T01:53:43.043-05:002014-05-11T01:53:43.043-05:00Aww, thanks. :)
If he really wants help with his a...Aww, thanks. :)<br />If he really wants help with his ance, you should try panoxyl wash and aloe for moisturizer. I had a guy come up to me once and one of my jobsn he told me that's what he uses and it really helped him a lot. Panoxyl use to be an under the counter wash, but it has been over the counter for years now. I would trust it more than proactive (which I don't trust at alln very unhealthy for skin actually), plus cheaper. I'm sure you could find printable internet coupons.<br /><br />I really hope it did get through to her, reps need to learn to be nicer people.<br /><br />You're welcome. If he seriously has any questions, or needs any help I have a facebook account, you can just send me a message any time with an skin questions or concerns because I'd be more than happy to help him. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03952465479733505724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-22590579401977733522014-05-09T10:59:55.635-05:002014-05-09T10:59:55.635-05:00It seems to me, that he didn't read the whole ...It seems to me, that he didn't read the whole post, as his comments simply reiterate what you stated yourself.<br /><br />I think you and your son handled things beautifully. Kudos to you for raising him so well and to your son for his self-confidence. He sounds like a great kid. :)Tarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00572261286933210609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-54479170448408774982014-05-08T07:58:20.030-05:002014-05-08T07:58:20.030-05:00Love it and you Jenny! Love it and you Jenny! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12018581507030201004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-74479749458247143532014-05-07T18:22:00.609-05:002014-05-07T18:22:00.609-05:00Oh timber. I'll reply only because this made m...Oh timber. I'll reply only because this made me laugh:<br /><br />" you do it purposely, with full malice aforethought," Really? Sweet Jesus. I wrote a blog post, I didn't murder anyone. <br /><br />And the reading comprehension (or lack of it) is also humorous. You do realize that I was replying to the person above, right? She shared a story that a few hundred other people have shared with me since reading my post. Having someone point out something on your physical being that may or may not be a point of insecurity DOES hurt, and obviously isn't easily forgotten.<br /><br />Unless you think that I've discovered a way to travel through time and space, to the exact moment each of these people were going through their own "rude confrontation", and made a big deal about it?? <br /><br />Also on the comprehension: where oh where did you read that I overreacted about this as far as my son is concerned? He handled is magnificently. He talked to me about what happened (and I think it's great that my kids want to talk to me about things that have happened to them...is that bad, too?). We discussed it, and he went on his merry way.<br /><br />I wrote a little blog post about it. And the next day, I emailed her, giving her a polite heads up that soliciting business from a minor at their place of work was probably not the brightest idea. I also urged her to work on her approach...that maybe a kid who is trapped behind a register doesn't want to hear about how bad she thinks his acne is. She responded, and that was it. Amway did contact me, by the way, and asked me for her information. <br /><br />Guess what, timber? I didn't give it to them. I thanked them for their concern and said that she and I had settled it. I know, right? HOW MALICIOUS OF ME.<br /><br />Honestly..I'm trying to think of the last time I read something on the internet that incensed me so much I felt compelled to leave not one, not two, but three (or is it four?) comments on some small mommy blog. (I haven't, by the way..if I don't agree with something I read I just move on. Or write a blog post about it, LOLOLOL). <br /><br />One of your other comments was basically a repeat of this one so no, it won't see the light of day. The other one is just lame so no on that one as well.<br /><br />But thank you so much for sharing your opinion. Even though I thoroughly and completely disagree. With zero malice ;)<br /><br />the_happy_hausfrauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07372773477740551839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-62664396399343077912014-05-07T14:42:23.364-05:002014-05-07T14:42:23.364-05:00Jennifer aka Mama Bear....that was GREAT ! I sel...Jennifer aka Mama Bear....that was GREAT ! I sell Avon products, but never force my card on anybody--(mostly word of mouth is where I get my business). I was bullied in school (even w/o acne), but because I was quiet and not 'grown up' as some of my female peers. Your chat w/ your son will instill more confidence, and he will be stronger for it. LindaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16259166005516593010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-3715226700140250652014-05-07T14:40:13.447-05:002014-05-07T14:40:13.447-05:00That's really the problem, "happy hausfra...That's really the problem, "happy hausfrau": "it's not forgotten." Of course it's not forgotten, not when you make such a big deal about it. It WOULD be forgotten, if you didn't overreact the way you have.<br /><br />And, you compound error upon error by doing the same thing to others that you think was done to your son....only, this time, you do it purposely, with full malice aforethought, which is much worse than what "Amway Jen" did.<br /><br />But, since this is moderated by you, I suspect it will never see the light of day. That's fine; my comments are meant for you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281443002606570143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-36767822873659845532014-05-07T13:38:40.692-05:002014-05-07T13:38:40.692-05:00I admire you! Your words remind me of my mother an...I admire you! Your words remind me of my mother and things she would say if someone did that to me. I'm 24 and still have acne and people point it out to me saying "You shouldn't still have acne" but i let it roll of me! Good for you for sticking up for your son!PandaPithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02400786043039910975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-10218696944941411422014-05-07T13:15:56.273-05:002014-05-07T13:15:56.273-05:00Well said. As a parent whose child is a little fur...Well said. As a parent whose child is a little further down the road and one that struggled with being the victim of comments such as these, I applaud you for taking the time to sit with him in this. My son is so crippled by anxiety and depression now that he can barely function and it is so hard to see your child in pain. You are showing him through your words how to fight back appropriately. Amiecarlson.blogspot.comAmiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15311569075577406930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-16197380423735855502014-05-07T12:08:54.832-05:002014-05-07T12:08:54.832-05:00Ok, calm down for a moment. I'm not a parent s...Ok, calm down for a moment. I'm not a parent so maybe I don't get the aspect of being the "mama bear". However I am a 40 year old woman who still gets acne (I have about 5 of them as we speak). I got the occasional pimple here and there as a teen but when I turned 20, that was it and I have the wonderful scars to prove it. <br /><br />I became a NYC police officer in my early 20's and while coming out of the bathroom of a Macys (this while in uniform) a woman told me I was very attractive except for my acne. <br /><br />Deep breath. I have a gun LOL. A few years later I went on Accutane (which I do NOT recommend). <br /><br />I'm also very tall and have been teased over my height, not to mention the asshole comments I've gotten over it.<br /><br />But you know what - it's NOT the end of the world! You can't get your panties in bind every time someone says something. Ok, your son has acne. Maybe the woman wanted to help. I've seen kids with bad (I mean BAD) acne and I just want to kidnap them to the nearest derm's office. <br /><br />I will forever have little pock marks on my face (how attractive). Not every comment is meant to be a malicious attack. <br /><br />Or maybe I need to have a child to understand this.Libtenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14667162147438852535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-64460936224783897642014-05-07T12:05:27.898-05:002014-05-07T12:05:27.898-05:00Says the freak who comes back to a mommy blog DAYS...Says the freak who comes back to a mommy blog DAYS later to spew more psycho babble ;) Talk about not being able to let go! I mean, this is my blog so I get why I'm here. But you? That's just all kinds of crazy. <br /><br />I did tell my friends about how I'm a narcissist, though. We had a good laugh.<br /><br />You might find some relief in kickboxing, or maybe classical music. <br /><br />xoxoxthe_happy_hausfrauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07372773477740551839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-80766206135331150592014-05-07T11:59:25.290-05:002014-05-07T11:59:25.290-05:00I notice that you didn't have the guts to post...I notice that you didn't have the guts to post my reply... You are a detriment to your son... You have severe sociopathic issues. Please for your sons sake, get him a guardian and get yourself some intense therapy Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-74863699089536721572014-05-07T11:32:01.223-05:002014-05-07T11:32:01.223-05:00Thank you for reading! I did in fact hear from Amw...Thank you for reading! I did in fact hear from Amway. They asked for Jennifer's contact info and I told them that I'd exchanged emails with her and considered it settled. And yeah..I do think they heard about it, ha! <br /><br />:)the_happy_hausfrauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07372773477740551839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7377914227915645124.post-64650257814584778932014-05-07T11:30:40.283-05:002014-05-07T11:30:40.283-05:00Hey...quit beating around the bush. Tell me how yo...Hey...quit beating around the bush. Tell me how you REALLY feel. <br /><br />I'm glad you came here to unload rather than kicking an innocent puppy or sticking your tongue out at a baby. <br /><br />(and LOL at "deadline"...flattering and funny)the_happy_hausfrauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07372773477740551839noreply@blogger.com